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This is an interesting and valuable preprint on the mechanism of HSV reactivation. The work is well done and address a topic that has been debated for decades. Using an in vitro model of HSV latency in differentiated neurons, the work presented suggests that the viral activator VP16 is expressed prior to immediate-early genes during viral reactivation, and may facilitate the subsequent expression of immediate-early and late genes. The work identifies a CTCF binding site close to VP16 and shows that it works as an insulator that may contribute to VP16 regulation during reactivation from latency. The authors also show that an enhancer element located near the LAT locus (LTE) is involved in VP16 regulation, and speculate that removal of CTFF during reactivation enables long-range interaction between the LTE and the VP16 promoter. However, the work presented does not test this hypothesis formally and more work will be needed to address it.
On one hand, Figure 1 and 2 indicate that removal of the LTE prevent early expression of VP16, and subsequently of early and late genes. On the other hand, Figure 3 and 4 identify an insulator near VP16, and show that CTFC is evicted from the viral genome during reactivation. From this, they speculate that CTCF eviction enable long-range activation of the VP16 by the LTE. While plasmid assays support that model, the data presented does not test that hypothesis mechanistically and it remains speculative. In the present form, the claim in the abstract that “long-range spatial interaction between the viral gene encoding the protein that initiates lytic phase transcription (VP16) and the viral enhancer element that drives its transcription” is unsupported. I suggest either tempering that claim, or conducting additional experiments to address it. For example, it would be interesting to remove the insulator from HSV1 WT and 17∆A, and measure VP16 expression during latency and reactivation. If the hypothesis is correct, the insulator deletion may lead VP16 to be over-expressed during latency in HSV1-WT, while no effect should be observed in the LTE mutant.
I do not understand why in vivo experiments are only showed in the supplementary figures, and why key experiments with WT and 17∆A in vivo are shown in two separate supplementary figures (S1 and S3). Weren’t these cohort infected and analyzed side by side? It makes comparing the dynamics of expression with the two virus difficult. The text writes that the dynamic in vivo agrees with their in vitro model, but i’m not sure this is supported by the data. In fig S1, both VP16 ad ICP27 are expressed at 2h and follow a similar dynamic. So this does not follow the same dynamic as in vitro, where VP16 expression occurs prior to ICP27. I suggest presenting all the in vivo data in its own figure, maybe figure 5?, and discuss how it support or deviate from the in vitro data. In addition, i suggest not expressing data as a fold change. This is often used when the underlying data is confusing. Right now it feels that the authors are trying to burry the in vivo data. This is unfortunate because this data is interesting and valuable, even though it may be harder to interpret and only partially support the overall model.
I find it strange that big fold changes (for example, in Fig S1, S3C) are non-significant or have a low p-value. This suggests that there is a lot of variation among replicates that the authors are not showing. I recommend showing the individual values for every figure in the paper. This is the best way to present data.
The manuscript includes an interesting paragraph justifying the use of a WT virus as a control instead of a rescue. While using both a WT and a rescue would be the best way, I believe that sequencing the viruses to identify secondary mutation, as the authors do, is appropriate. However, the authors should sequence both the 17∆A and WT isolates that they are using, and present the results in a supplementary file. I would be highly surprised if “no secondary mutations” exist between viruses isolated and propagated in different labs. Documenting these differences is important and would justify the claim that a rescue virus was not necessary.
It is unclear if the results shown in Fig. 1 and 2 were done together, or whether they represent separate experiments. If they were not done side by side, I do not think that it is appropriate to compare the dynamics between two separate infections, as there is a lot of variation just from one infection to the next, even with the same virus. If they were done separately, the results of Fig. 2D would be very hard to interpret. Clarifying the methodology would help.
Similarly, in Fig. 3C, are the pGL3 and LTE controls the same for every panel? It seems so. This is confusing to me to show the same data 5 times. Why not have just one graph?
A question about the model. Is 8 days sufficient to induce latency fully? Would things be different if HSV were reactivated after 2 or 3 weeks?
From the data presented, it seems that only a few cells are latently infected, with HSV genome copies representing 5% of GAPDH. Have the authors quantified how many cells are latently infected, and what is the number of HSV genomes per infected cell? If it were somehow different between the two viruses, that could change the interpretation of the results (for example, if one virus had fewer cells infected with more HSV copies)
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